Have you ever come across the name of a store that you couldn’t pronounce? Since it’s a proper noun you can’t look it up in a dictionary. You ask friends, but they can’t pronounce it either. Each of you calls it by a different name, yet you all know exactly what you are referring to. For my husband and I, that store is L’Occitane en Provence. I wandered into this store in the mall last summer and fell in love with the scent of their citrus verbena products. When I spritzed myself with that fragrance, my husband complimented me and asked where it came from; that is when our troubles began.
“I got it in that French store in the mall,” I said trying to avoid saying the actual name of the store.
“What French store?” he asked.
“You know the one I’m talking about. “LAH-OC-SIH-TANE,” I said butchering the name.
He paused for a minute, thought about what I had said and then realized which store I was talking about. “That’s how you say the name of that store?” he asked intrigued. “I thought it was pronounced LUH-O-SEE-TAHN.”
“I have no idea how to pronounce the name of the store. But, you knew exactly what I was talking about.”
And so began an intermittent quest for the true pronunciation of L’Occitane. Each time we passed the store in the mall, it would momentarily spark our curiosity. We’d renew our conversation about how to pronounce the name, take a few horribly mispronounced guesses and leave the topic alone until the next time we happened by the store. I suppose if the urge to know the answer to our pronunciation dilemma was insatiable, we could have just gone into the store to ask, but where’s the sport in that?
A few weeks ago our curiosity got the better of us while we were actually shopping in the store when it wasn’t very busy. While the cashier was ringing up my purchase, Oregano asked, “How do you pronounce the name of this store? We’ve been wondering for awhile and have absolutely no idea.”
The cashier laughed, said she gets asked that question a lot, then kindly pronounced the name of the store and told us what it meant in French. Curiosity sated, we walked out of the store repeating the name, but by the time we reached our car in the parking lot we had managed to mangle the correct pronunciation. For a brief moment we were able to say the name of the store; then we were saying a host of new, more French sounding mispronunciations.
Not long after our fleeting and fruitless attempt at learning the name of the store, a friend was extolling the virtues of shea butter hand cream. When I asked her which brand she preferred she said, “It’s from LOW-KEY-TAH-NAY.”
Immediately, I knew which store she was referring to and I started laughing at the ridiculously Italian sounding pronunciation of this French store. “That’s not how you say the name of that store,” I said still giggling. I couldn’t accurately pronounce the name of the store when she asked me to, but LOW-KEY-TAH-NAY was definitely not it.
My friend, Bruschetta, speaks Italian and since she didn’t know how to pronounce the name of the store, she went to her default foreign language setting and decided to Italianize the French name of the store. This kicked off a pronunciation debate and a crusade for knowledge, if for no other reason than to prove one of us was wrong.
Bruschetta looked at me and said, “How are we going to find out the name of the store?”
“That’s easy,” I said. “Call the store and listen to what they say when they answer the phone. That will solve the problem.”
In seconds, Bruschetta whipped out her phone, looked up the number and was calling the store. As it rang on speaker phone, I asked what she planned to say after the person on the other end said the name of the store. On the third ring a woman picked up the phone and quickly said something French sounding. Quick thinking Bruschetta asked a question about location and then we hung up.
“Did you hear what she said?” Bruschetta asked frantically.
“No, there was too much background noise. Damn! Try another store. There’s one in Bridgewater.”
We were formulating a new game plan when we realized we could just ask a colleague of ours who speaks French. So, like two insane women on an urgent trivial mission, we approached our colleague and asked for his help. Bruschetta held her i-phone towards this French-speaking good sport and asked, “How do you pronounce the name of this store?”
Being the kind man that he is, he graciously indulged our insanity without asking any questions. We had our answer, but neither one of us had been right. Bruschetta began showing her i-phone to everyone within arm’s reach and asked them to read the name of the store. Not one person pronounced the name the same way and not one person pronounced it correctly. It was an impressive array of mispronunciations.
Later that night, I recounted this tale to Oregano who reminded me that the cashier had mentioned a You Tube video in which a marketing team stopped people on a street outside L’Occitane en Provence and asked them how to pronounce the name of the store. After we watched the video, I realized that Bruschetta and I had unknowingly re-created this experiment on a smaller scale in our office. One might question the rationale in choosing a name for a store that most people outside of France can not accurately pronounce. On the other hand, maybe it is a stroke of genius. While we might not be able to say the name of the store, we can’t stop talking about it.
Curious? Watch the video to finally get the right answer to this pronunciation mystery.
Just coming across this now, but this is amazing. There’s one of these stores a block down from my office. Now I know. The other store that gets me in a way more embarrassing way is “Bebe.” Is it “bee-bee” or “beh-beh”? The first makes me sound like an idiot if I’m wrong, the second makes me sound super pretentious! Oh, these stores…
I don’t understand why these stores don’t have some sort of pronunciation guide somewhere near their entrances or printed on their receipts. We have a Bebe in the mall nearby and I have no idea how to say it either. I haven’t even attempted saying it for exactly the reasons you mentioned. And, if I can’t say it, I’m not shopping there.
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Great post – hilarious video too!
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I’m new here. I love your name!
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Haha! Me and my bf and his sister walked passed that store Sunday and I asked them how they pronounced it. It sounded right though! LOL
It’s been fun to hear how everyone has been pronouncing it. Thanks for reading and sharing a comment. Hope you’ll be back to visit again soon.
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I love this, I got a hamper of L’Occitane For Christmas, so glad I know how to pronounce it now.
Sounds like you got a great Christmas present. Enjoy it and feel confident that you can now say the name properly. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I found this video quite amusing! Being a French speaker, I recognised the correct pronunciation, however before becoming fluent I remember always struggling with odd names like this. And it always seemed to be in French. La this or Le that. Always French. Have to agree with the above comment – French has an uncanny ability to make everything sound more classy that it actually is.
Thanks for admitting that while you are now fluent in French, you struggled with it at one time. It’s quite a challening word for those of us with no French language skills. Having a French sounding name does add some flair, though.
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You have ended my problem. I myself have been wondering for the proper pronunciation of this store. Funny and interesting post! 🙂
I’m happy I could solve your problem and entertain you at the same time. Thanks for reading and commenting.
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This was far too hilarious! great writing technique 🙂
Thanks so much for the Versatile Blogger Award and your wonderful compliments. That was very kind of you. I’m glad you enjoyed the post.
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Amazingly you have managed to clear up something that has been a mystery to me for a very very long time. Thanks! Next time I won’t sound like such a pleb when I present one of my friends with a gift from the_store_that_cannot_be_named. 😉
Love the Voldemort reference. Glad you enjoyed the post and found it fun and informative. Thanks for reading and commenting. Hope you’ll be back again soon.
By the way, do you seriously have friends names Bruschetta and Oregano? That’s even funnier than L’Occitane!
No, I’m not really married to an Oregano or have a friend named Bruschetta. To protect their identities, I give my friends and family food/spice names in my posts. If you check out my post Presenting Paprika https://goodhumored.wordpress.com/presenting-paprika-2/ you can see how all this came about. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Love it. Love the video. Who knew that a business name could generate so many smiles?
It’s wonderful to see how many people are getting a chuckle out of the post and video. Glad you enjoyed it too. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Perfecto! This made me giggle. Thank you for sharing. So freshly pressed!
I’m so glad I could make you giggle. That’s truly the best compliment I could receive. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
reading your post was fun … but watching the video was cool …. I shall now remember it
lock see taan ….. thanks
I’m always amused when I pronounce the name correctly and then a family member/friend/etc. says, “What?” as if I’m the one saying it wrong!
Now you can show them the post and video to prove that you are right and they are wrong. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Like x 100! Great story, great ending. Love it.
Thanks x100!! Glad you enjoyed the whole story. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Working on marketing myself with an unpronouceable word (not just a symbol, Prince)something no one can remember but is at the same time unforgettable. Loved the post. Jo @ Let’s Face the Music
Glad you could relate to the story. Working with a symbol seems even more challenging than working with a word that is difficult to pronounce. At least the L’Occitane people know that people who speak French will be able to pronounce it. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Funny….funny…:.-)…You have Bruschetta(Italian bread) and Oregano…now all you need is Prosciutto ham and a Baguette…and you have a meal, but please… first wash away the l’Occitane lavendar lotion from your hands…..too funny….
The possibilites for names and meals are endless. I have people asking to be certain spices/foods when I write now. Glad you enjoyed the post. Thanks for reading and commenting.
While you’re at it, please don’t pronounce “bruschetta” as though it has an “sh” in it. The sch is prounced like “sk” in English.
Excellent advice! Thanks for taking the time to read and leave a comment. Hope you’ll be back again soon.
Love it! Informative AND entertaining! =)
So glad you enjoyed it. I’m always happy when I can be educational and entertaining. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Love this post! Giggled all the way through! 😀 We have that store in Dublin too, and also asked myself how to pronounce that darned name. I should ask the shopkeeper next time I am there. LOL.
Thanks for the great compliment, Theresa. It makes me really happy to know that I made you laugh. If you watch the video a few times you may be able to go into your shop in Dublin and impress the shopkeeper by saying the name correctly. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
LOL. This post is hilarious. I’ve heard many people go through the struggles of French pronounciation. With this one instance, luckily for me, the first time I came accross this store was actually in Paris, France! I’d gone there to visit my French girlfriend. Whenever the store comes up in conversation back home, I always correct everyone (lol). My French is pretty awful overall tho.
Merci for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed the post. It would seem you have some insider information on the pronunciation. Very generous of you to correct those of us who are saying it wrong instead of letting us look like fools. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Haha this blog post is so relevent to me right now. Me and my friend were just wondering how to pronounce it the other day!
For once, my timing was right. Glad I could solve the mystery for you and your friend. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Congratulations of being “pressed”! This post is great. None of my friends can wrap their tongues around that name either! I laughed out loud when I read this. Great blog as well – happy to have stumbled across it thanks to Freshly Pressed.
GAH!! Congrats “on” not “of”…
No worries. Happens to the best of us.
I’m thrilled that it made you laugh out loud. Now you can be the envy of your friends by being able to pronounce the word. I’m glad you found Good Humored and are enjoying it. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Nice…..Is that in NY or somthing?because I never heard of this place.
I believe the video was taken in NYC, but other readers have checked in from other parts of the US, Canada, France and Indonesia to tell me that they have the store in their locations too. Thanks for reading and commenting.
finally!!! hahaha I know how to say it!! 😀 Thank you for this fun post! 😀
Always happy to educate and entertain all in one post. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for reading and commenting.
An easy way to pronounce would be “lock-see-tan”. Loved your entry! Hilarious to the end and that video was the cherry! My husband and I were laughing at all the mispronunciations 🙂
I keep repeating the name in my head. After all the wonderful hints and French lessons I’ve gotten in my comments, I think I’ll be able to remember the name of the store. Glad you enjoyed the post. Thanks for reading and commenting.
I’m so glad the video revealed the true pronunciation. Not like some movies that leave you “wondering” because there’s no right answer…that would’ve killed me!
I hate when books and movies leave you hanging. I’m glad you thought the post was entertaining and suspenseful 🙂 Thanks for reading and commenting.
haha this is so true. it’s quite tricky for sure if one doesn’t know a lick of french
I certainly qualify as one who doesn’t know a lick of French. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Hello! Congratulations for making it in the freshly pressed. You know, you got me hanging for some minutes just to finally conclude the correct pronounciation. Thank you for this simple but LOl read. 🙂
Glad the post was amusing and suspenseful. Thanks so much for reading and commenting.
I have asked every one how to pronounce this. I was right but I have heard so many things. Never thought to call the store. This was a hilarious post!
I figured calling the store was like going directly to the source. Too bad we couldn’t hear them when they answered the phone. Glad you enjoyed the post. Thanks for reading and commenting.
So fun! Love the video. Thanks so much for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed the post and video. Thanks for reading and commenting.
You’re right on target. I love the scent and haven’t got a clue how to pronounce it…. and I’m French!
Now you can shop with confidence! Thanks for reading and commenting, Nancy.
reminded me of the time a friend gave me a bath set for Christmas and the only way I could call it (L’Occitane) when asked where it came from is “that bath/fragrance store on the lower ground floor of this mall” and everyone who asked knew exactly what it was.
great post! 🙂
That’s exactly how I described it for years – that French store in the mall with all the lavender. Thanks for reading and commenting.
OMG!! Suuuuuch a great post. I think we can all think of a situation like this in our own lives.
I’m glad you enjoyed the post so much. It’s funny how many people can relate to this situation. Thanks for reading and commenting.
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OMG, Paprika! Congrats on Freshly Pressed! I feel like I know a celebrity now! It explains the sudden upswing in people finding my blog from yours! I had an all time high of 52 hits two days ago and couldn’t for the life of me figure out why….A little Freshly Pressed happiness rubbing off on me!!! BTW, I finally have your blog link under “Blogs I love” on Woman in the Middle. Got that tech help I needed. It took them ten minutes so I never would have figured it out!!!
Thanks! I’m stunned that I was Freshly Pressed and thrilled that some of that rubbed off on my blog buddies. I hope it leads to more subscribers for you. Thanks for adding me to your “Blogs I love” section 🙂
I enjoyed this post. You turned it into this fun quest and I think that is very creative of you. Good work and congrats.
I try to find the fun in the ordinary. Thanks so much for your compliments and for taking the time to read and comment.
I never realized how hard it was to some people.. lol i just always said Lok-c-tan, maybe i’m a natural french speaker? that wouldnt make any sense would it.
no im not
Good for you for getting it right. You could always tell people you are a native French speaker… Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
This was amazing… It’s been one of difficult words for me too, to pronounce it.. Thank you I learned now 🙂 Congratulations being on Freshly Pressed. It is so nice to meet with you. With my love, nia
Nia, it’s nice to meet you too. I’m glad that you enjoyed the post so much. Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.
couldn’t wait to share this with my husband! 🙂 he gave me a bath set of the citrus verbena products about a year ago, & since then, we’ve both been guessing how to pronounce the brand correctly too! funny how many we are who could relate, but just never really took the time & effort to find out the way you guys finally did!!! ;D thanks & it was really entertaining!
I’m so glad you enjoyed the post enough to share it with your husband. Don’t you love the scent of those citrus verbena products? Until I saw the video and all of these comments I had no idea how many of us were in the same boat. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
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You aren’t going to be quoting them for a course on how not to write, are you? I’ll contact you to discuss it in more detail. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I really enjoyed this post! I can relate because my relatives are from Tennessee, and they mispronounce everything; especially if it is a brand name, store or celebrity. For example, Ashton Kootcher, Tommy Hil-finger, etc. Thanks for the laugh this morning. 🙂
Knowing I helped you start your day off with a laugh is a great compliment! Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Loved your blog post!! I’m sure many can relate! We’ll test you next time you come into our boutique 😉 Thanks for sharing!
I’m glad you enjoyed it. After this, I’m sure I’ll be able to remember the correct pronunciation. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
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How awesome! Thanks!
This is hysterical! I’m so amused that there is a video on YouTube that finally answers the question (after many butchering attempts, of course). 🙂 I myself tend to pronounce it differently every time. I wonder how long I’ll remember the right way to say it???
I’m so glad you enjoyed the post and video so much. It’s very comforting to know that we aren’t the only ones stumped by the pronunciation of that store. Good luck remembering the name. You can always pop back onto the blog to remind yourself. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
nice video 😀
I just shared the video. It was made by the L’Occitane people who clearly recognized that there was a need for it. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Haha I was going to say I ring stores that I can’t pronounce but they do usually say it quite fast so it doesn’t always work!
Phoning the store was a good idea, but we didn’t anticipate how quickly the person would speak or all the background noise. Clearly, it was not the best way to find our answer. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Good post! I can relate because I shop there sometimes The other store name that I struggle with is SUR La Table. It’s that fancy cookware store.
Congrats on your Freshly Pressed
Sur La Table is another one I sound like a fool when I am saying. Thankfully, I don’t shop there so it’s not an issue. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
love it, great post!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I don’t think I can pronounce the name of the store correctly, still. I can see how you could walk out of the store and not remember what they just told you. I definitely think it’s a marketing stroke of genius. Enjoyed your post very much.
I agree with you that it is a marketing stroke of genius. For a name we can’t say, it’s sure been generating a lot of buzz. Glad you enjoyed the post. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I had been through this very ting with a Canadian friend who seems to know everything. She put me right, but a really interesting story none the less. It’s nice to know that others had the same toruble with it that I did. Schoolboy french was useless..
It would seem that native English speakers have had to rely on the kindness of people who speak French to correct us. I didn’t even have French in school so I was completely clueless about the pronunciation. Thanks for reading and commenting.
This is hilarious. I love the spice references too. 🙂 Great site!
I’m so glad you enjoyed the post. My friends and family are enjoying the spice references, too. I usually let them pick their own and everyone has been getting a kick out of it. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Awesome post. I wrote a boring follow up on my blog. Well, its not really a followup, but your post has been mentioned. Just thought you’d like to know.
I’m so glad you enjoyed the post enough to use it as an inspiration for your post. Thanks for reading and commenting.
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L’oKSitane (Occitane, Occitan, Occitanie, Oc, Languedoc)
LOOL! I use to pronounce it LO-SEE-TAN!! Thanks for the info!
Paprika, Bruchetta, and Coriander was it?!
I’m good at languages but still mispronounced it as “Lok-ee-tan” . My sweet French sister-in-law never said a word 🙂 “Lox-ee-tan”.
My husband is Oregano, but I’ll have to think of someone who can be my Coriander since that seems to work as a fun name too. It’s very sweet that your sister-in-law didn’t make fun of your pronunciation. Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment.
Glad I could help and make you laugh. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Great insight into how freakin’ hard it is to pronounce that store’s name. This post is an inspiration to all who have experienced french pronunciation faux-pas !
Love the “faux pas” pun! I’m happy I could help shed some light on the pronunciation. Thanks for reading and commenting.
This is a really funny post. lol thanks for sharing, we defo recommend to my friends, they’ll find this crazy 🙂
I’m so glad you enjoyed the post. Thanks for sharing it with your friends. I appreciate it. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
This post gave me bucket of smile! 😉
Love the term bucket of smile! That’s a wonderful compliment. Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment.
(That’s assuming you don’t mind of course!)
I can’t take credit for the video, that’s from the fine folks at L’Occitane, but I love knowing that you would like to use the post in your lessons.
As a native French speaker, it had never occurred to me that this might be hard to pronounce, but now that you’ve pointed it out – yeah! You actually need to know quite a few rules of French spelling to know this… Like that c before a consonant is a K sound, but before an E or an I it’s a S sound. Thank for this, might have to use the video in my lessons or on my language blog!
Isn’t it funny how native speakers of a language are often unable to recognize the parts of their language that might be a challenge for non-native speakers. Each language has it’s own rules and nuances. I’ve learned quite a bit about the French language from the very generous readers who were willing to share some of the rules with me. Thanks for reading and commenting.
So well written.. I was so curious to know actual pronunciation .. This reminds of another name that I still don’t know how to pronounce .. It’s Jake Gyllenhaal .. I’m just too lazy to search it on youtube or anything.. It is always Jake “What’s his name” .. So ultimately nowadays I end up calling him Jake G ..
Awesome post !Congrats on Freshly pressed !
I’m not quite sure how to pronounce his name either, but I’ve narrowed it down to two possibilities. So glad you enjoyed the post. Thanks for reading and commenting.
i swear the pronunciation of that juggles my head like what!!!!!!!!low octane. it gives me shivers to say the least, its like trying to memorize those creepy, hard chemistry words …low octane, butane, ..and the you tube video, jejeje nice. wonder what people thought
The word is a head-scratcher if you are not a speaker of the French language. It was fun to watch those people on the video mess up the pronunciation as much as we were. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Glad you liked it. Thanks for reading and commenting.
It’s simple… learn the very straightforward pronunciation rules of French and pronounce it
LOCK-SEE-TANN with a little bit of stress on the LOCK (think of the British “LOCK” pronunciation though) and more stress on the TANN bit. Then you’re all set, unless your buying something from the shop’s men’s line, in which case it’s called L’OCCITAN and is pronounced LOCK-SEE-TAH~ (the TAH~ here is a nasalized dark-ah sound)… easy as π… 😉
Ahhh, yes, very simple indeed. You can bet that I will be staying out of the men’s section of the store. I’m having enough trouble mastering this one word. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Awesome blog, Fell upon it and really enjoyed it. Thanks 🙂
So glad you stumbled upon the blog and enjoyed reading it. I hope you’ll be back again. Thanks for reading and commenting.
HAHAH such a cool post!! 😀
Thanks for reading and commenting. Glad you enjoyed the post.
Superb post! I was in a similar dilemma, thanks for sorting it out. *repeats to herself LOX-EE-TAN*
So glad you enjoyed the post. Keep repeating that name. I’ve been repeating it, wrote the post and still get it wrong if I’m not really thinking about how to pronounce it. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Finalement!!! hehehe Thank you for this post!! 😀
So glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for reading and commenting.
thanks for sharing! been wondering how it’s pronounced. a new learning for the new year! cheers!
I’m always happy to pass on a little knowledge infused with humor. Thanks for reading and commenting.
This post is pretty compelling. 😀
Thanks for reading and commenting.
Love it! what a great observation. I always struggle to invite people to ‘Le Pain Quotidien’. My favourite shop name at the moment is Sweaty Betty. No pronounciation probs there but you do get some funny looks from the uninitiated…
I’m intrigued. What does Sweaty Betty sell in their shop? It’s a fun name to say, but I can see how it might turn a few heads for people who’ve never heard of it. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
now, that was a fun post! that is really what FP stands for, although many would think it is ‘freshly pressed’. but you managed to pull off both, so i salute you!
thanks for sharing
Thanks so much for your wonderful compliment and for taking the time to read and comment.
I loved your post, gave me a good giggle!
Knowing I made you giggle is one of the best compliments I could receive. Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.
It’s amazing how we can all literately be worlds apart, but have the same experiences… Had the same debate with my boyfriend last night, I thought it was “le oc ittan e” and he said it was “le ox itan” Good post, thanks a mill 🙂
So glad you enjoyed the post and now you can settle the argument with your boyfriend. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Sorry- I’m not an idiot, I didn’t think my first comment went through- my computer seized up on me. I don’t mean to pester!
No worries. Happens to me all the time.
Hi there, I live in Indonesia and on their Indonesian site, L-What actually has a section that’s dedicated to telling you how to pronounce their name: http://www.loccitane.co.id/bagaimana-menyebutkan-l'occitane,41,2,20744,192755.htm (along with a video to help). “Bagaimana Menyebutkan” means “How to Say”.
I’ll definitely have to check out the link you sent for the Indonesian version of their website. Thanks for sharing that and for taking the time to read and comment.
Hahah ! it’s these little things we do in life that make it fun…no ?
You are absolutely right. It is these goofy little things that bring laughter to our lives and make them fun. Thanks for reading and commenting.
My Mom and I pronounce it as LOK-SI-TAHN here in Manila. 🙂
We love their products, too!
You and your mom have done a great job of pronouncing it. Kudos to you both. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Oh the calamity!! I always wondered how to pronounce the store Oilily. Is it oil-ly or oy-lily? And what about lululemon? Why do people want to make that one French?
My in-laws have a hard time pronouncing Crate & Barrel, or Abercrombie & Fitch. So let’s not even send them to L’Occitane!
Congrats on Freshly Pressed!
All of these wonderful comments have made me realize that there are a lot more stores and restaurants out there with names that we butcher on a daily basis. I’m also realizing that one person’s easy pronunciation is another person’s challenge. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I love this post and can soooo relate to it! I pronounce it ‘LEH – OCHK – A – TANE’ and tried to say it several times and came across that video they made of people trying to say the store’s name. This cracked me up because I’ve been caught trying to say their store name too, and everyone has their own spin on saying it!
The video made me feel a whole lot better since I knew I wasn’t the only one who couldn’t say the name of the store. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Thank you, Paprika, I will now be able to pronounce this brand correctly! Heaven only knows how long I’ve been mispronouncing it! Loved the article. Your name is adorable, as well. : )
Always happy to educate and entertain. Thanks so much for your gracious compliments and for taking the time to read and comment.
As someone who was a french minor in college and has travelled to France and West Africa I have to say that I think I enjoyed this post and that video more than I should of. C’est parfait! Congratulations on being freshly pressed. Cheers.
I’m so glad my readers who speak/read French are enjoying it as much as those of us who can’t speak or read French. Thanks so much for taking the time to read and comment.
As I was reading your post, I began to wonder how it is really pronounced. So I ran through my head different ways to say that one word, each time butchering it I’m sure, as they all sounded wrong. And then the video! Thank heavens you posted the video and solved the mystery right away. Lol.
I’m not really good at delaying gratification or curiosity so I felt the need to include the video for other readers like me who would want to know immediately how to pronounce the word. Thanks for reading and commenting.
I glad to read this one. Hahaha… this is hilarious 😀 There are so many things that I can’t pronounce especially in French, well, thanks for thttps://goodhumored.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/l-what/he post and great video!
So glad I could make you laugh. That is one of the best compliments to receive. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Very clever. Loved your blog and the video. There’s a store that many try to make sound more upscale by giving it a French pronounciation. They call it Tahr-jay. (Target)
It is funny that so many of us refer to Target at “Tahr-zhay” trying to make it sound more upscale and the upscale store that is French, we try to Americanize. Thanks for reading and commenting.
I took French and Italian in high school and I still have problems saying a few sentences. Funny story you wrote I enjoyed it =)
I took Spanish, German and sign language classes so I was helpless and hopeless to pronounce a French word. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Fun blog! I’ve always wondered how the heck to pronounce it too…and now I know…thanks!
Always happy to educate and entertain! Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I love little mysteries like this! Sometimes it’s kind of a shame when they get solved. But there are always more mysteries! 🙂
Life’s full of mysteries. This is just one we can cross off the list. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Great article! Reading it made me giggle, as I’ve had an affinity for this store for quite some time and never really knew if I was pronouncing it right myself. (I was proud to find from the video that I was at least somewhat close…assuming it was LE-OSSI-TAN–maybe a little too Spanish sounding).
So glad the story made you laugh. The video made me feel a bit better, too. I wasn’t as bad as some of the people they interviewed. Thanks for reading and commenting.
This is very nice, funny too. Ha!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Haha – I remember as a kid reading a book called Citadel of Chaos but constantly pronounced it SEA-ATTA-TUL of CHAY-OS.
Isn’t it funny that we remember mispronunciations? I wonder why they stick with us. Thanks for reading and commenting.
This is great – the mystery finally solved!
Comes from “Langue d’Oc” (The language of yes) referring to the language spoken in that part of France (now Provence).
Really enjoyed this –
I must say that the French lessons I have received since this post was Freshly Pressed have been fascinating. I feel so much smarter now. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Not only Provence, but from Bordeaux and the atlantic coast to Provence and mediterranean coast and italian boundary, quite all the south, except the Basque land.
The lessons my readers have shared on the French language and dialect regions has been really fascinating. Thanks for reading the post and taking the time to explain it to me.
Brilliant post, Thank you!
Nice to know it’s not just we English who cause confusion, as in ‘Worcestershire’ Sauce (pronounced ‘Woos-ter-sher’ or even just ‘Wooster’ – but NEVER ‘Wor-sess-ter-shyre’!)
It’s been really fun reading all of the other words my readers have mispronounced. With each one I read I think, “Oh, yeah! That’s another good one.” Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Thanks, Paprika, for lightening my day – read a few older posts, incl the one on Jewish holidays – l’shana goy tova!
Thanks for the wonderful compliment. It always makes me happy to know that something I’ve written has brought a smile to someone’s day. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
It’s Low Octane…meaning they use less petroleum in their products….
That’s one argument for a mispronunciation. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Been wondering this for a while, I’ve been called it “OX-IT-ANE”
Wonder no more, you have your answer. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Haha I’m French and I won’t laugh (I’m not laughing!) but still, haha! Ok, I’m laughing, but I know you’d be the same if you heard me speak English, even though I’ve lived in the US for more than a year now!
I’m planning on making a video about accents soon, accents are ALWAYS funny 🙂
By all means, go ahead and laugh at the mispronunciations. You’re laughing with us, not at us. I’m sure your video on accents will be hilarious. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Awesome! I loved you epic journey to figuring out how to say this name. I personally struggle with the word quinoa. Is it CHEENOAH? KEENWAH? Thankfully my school forced us to take many years of French so we can pronounce frou-frou French names.
I totally know what you mean about pronouncing quinoa. I thought it was QUIN-NO-HAH. I would have never figured out the correct pronunciation of that. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I have always wondered! Thank you solving this urban mystery, and making me feel just a wee bit smarter 🙂 Love the video. Très bonne!
Always happy to educate and entertain! Thanks for reading and commenting.
Congratulations on being chosen for Freshly Pressed. I knew I found an exceptional, talented writer when I signed on to your blog. Very funny post, and I DID see the You tube account of the pronunciation. It was a TV filler when they got tired of discussing the republican primaries.
Your friend’s name, Brushetta, absolutely caused me to roar with laughter! I wonder what you would call me if the occasion ever presented itself…
Thank you so much for your compliments, Ronnie. I guess we’d have to move you to the head of the class since you’ve already seen the video. Bruschetta got to choose her own name. Whenever I am going to include a friend in a story I give them the opportunity to choose their own food related name/spice. I’ll have to think about one for you…
So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much for reading and commenting.
Chipotle. I see the word and I think “Kai-pot-uhl” or “Chip-petal” or “Chip-pottle” — anything but how it’s supposed to be pronounced, “Chip-pote-lay.”
That’s another good example of a word many people can’t pronounce. We have a Chipotle Grill near us and people can’t pronounce that either. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I’ll be sharing the video with my French students. Very cute.
I can only take credit for sharing the video. The fine folks at L’Occitane clearly recognized the need for it. I hope your students enjoy it! Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
What fun….and I never thought there was a problem, but then again, I had French in school and the first shop I saw was actually in Provence!
The people who can speak/read French seem to be amused by those of us who are butchering the pronunciation. Everybody comes out a winner. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I was sniggering all the way through this, especially when you called up the stores and your French-speaking friend. Very well written!
I’m so glad this made you laugh. We were really like two crazy women that day. Thanks so much for reading and commenting.
I love to see a blogger that makes an effort to reply to every comment! I commend you for that too. If you get a chance please check out my blog too (A little different from what you write but I hope it interests you): http:cupcakinglydeliciouscakediaries.wordpress.com
Thanks for your kind words. It’s been challenging keeping up with the comments in a timely fashion since I actually have a full time job, but I feel it is really important to respond to reader’s comments. If a reader takes time from his/her busy day to read one of my stories and then even more time to share a thought with me, I feel like the least I can do is acknowledge that. When things return to a more normal pace for me I will check out your blog. I love to bake and the name of your blog makes me drool.
That is amazing! Now I know 🙂
Happy to educate and entertain. Thanks for reading and commenting.
Oh, I thought I was the only one having problems pronouncing this brand! Great post! Love the humor and the story.:)
The response to this post certainly proves that you weren’t the only one mispronouncing the brand. Welcome to the club. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Oh that’s brilliant! It reminds me of the debate my stepmother & I have over whether the Italian-style restaurant chain ASK is pronounced “Ask” or “A-S-K”… It’s never been settled yet!
That one’s a stumper. What a weird name for a restaurant. Try calling and see how they answer the phone. Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment.
Je parle francais (I speak French) so this post was HILARIOUS and definitely made me smile! 🙂
I’m so glad the French speaking readers who’ve read this have found it amusing. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Awesome video!! I was smiling & laughing!! Sorry just too cute to hear MANY different ways of saying it! N I do say it differently too!
I’m from Singapore & I LOVE their products. Here’s how my bf say it: ” L-O-see-Tane ”
N here’s how I say it: ” L-OC-C-TANE ” So now I know the REAL pronounciation!
Thanks for sharing!!!
The video made me laugh out loud, too. It made me feel better to know that I wasn’t the only one who was mispronouncing the name so badly. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Okay, how can 2 people, I like and adore and I believe are completly brilliant get freshly pressed on the same day?!?!?
Either they’ve finally got someone with an ounce of understanding for true humour up there or I might have to rethink my feelings about freshpressed.
Congrats, lovely darling Paprika – I don’t know anybody more deserving
Enjoy the ride 🙂
Gosh, suddenly I feel very special, maybe the way Madonna’s cocktail waitress feels 😉
Oh and obviously I’ve enjoyed the post – but than again that’s now surprise 😉
Thank you so much for such kind words. Your comments always make me feel like I just got a gold sticker for doing a good job 🙂
L’Occitane is a different dialect than French. I’m not sure how to pronounce the word either, which is pathetic since I teach music appreciation courses on the traditional music of France. Funny post about mangling language. We all do it everyday.
So if the name of the store was a traditional French song or piece of music, you’d be all set. Everyone has their niche. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
What fun! Thanks for providing the answer, too. I was close, but no cigar. I had an S sound rather than the X.
There are so many words that I read but never say aloud. When reading aloud to a blind friend last summer, so many foreign words showed up, mostly in French, and I was embarrassed at how lousy my pronunciation is!
There are a lot of words I wouldn’t dare attempt to read out loud. Good for you for being brave enough to attempt to do them while reading aloud to your friend. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Great post. (The hand cream there, at that place, is the best!
I haven’t tried the shea butter hand cream that people have raved about, but I LOVE their lavender hand cream. Thanks so much for commenting.
This gave me a good giggle over my breakfast. Thanks!!
What a great compliment, to know that I helped you to start your day off with a giggle. I hope the rest of your day goes well, too. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
YAAAAAAAAY! Paprika! Way to get Freshly Pressed!
Hilarious. A great read. I am the worst about butchering these things. I love how the video features a host of foreign-accented folks also butchering it. I figured it was just us dumb Americans who can’t pronounce foreign words outside of “hamburger.”
Again, CONGRATS! Enjoy the ride. I hear it’s fun 🙂
Thanks, Angie. So far it’s been a fun and wild ride. Stay tuned for a post about this experience. I’ll start writing it as soon as the shock wears off.
Thanks for the smiles! I invite you and your readers to join me at http://contemporarymusings.wordpress.com. If they love your material, they’ll at least give me an “E” for effort! Here I insert a “linguistic” smiley face because I refuse to use punctuation marks for other than their intended purpose!
So glad I could make you smile. That’s a wonderful compliment to get! Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
i hate when that happens! there’s this great cafe in des moines, iowa called “la mie”. i’ve heard people refer to it as “lay-mee”, “lah-mee”, “lah-my”…who knows. what i can say is that they have the best pastries in the land. and it’s fun to say “lay-mee”…double meaning. i bust it out when my mind is in the gutter. anyway, great story and i can so relate!
If the pastires are that good I wouldn’t care what I called it either. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
i recently started using their shea butter hand cream and had no idea how to pronounce the name either. now i know. thanks for the post!
Glad I could help out. My friend, Bruschetta, raves about their shea butter hand cream. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Very funny post!! Thank you for sharing.
So glad it made you laugh. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Cute post and very entertaining.
Thanks! So glad I could entertain you. Thanks for taking the time to read and leave a comment.
Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
haha, very cute, but so true. I get a kick when people mispronounce various Italian foods, such as mozzerella. Italians say it as MOOT-SA-RELLLLLLA, but I’ve heard it called MATZA-RELLA, and laughed. What can we do?
I guess every language has words people pronounce wrong which amuses native speakers. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Interesting post, i can totally relate to it. There’s this german store i cant pronounce. Suprisingly though, i had no problem with this particular one.
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I would have done better with a German store. Maybe we should trade places. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
LOL, this is a cute post, well deserved as Freshly Pressed 🙂 Bravo Ma’dam!
Merci. I’m so glad you enjoyed reading it. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Youtube really does have everything.
Who would have thought there would be a video for this? I’m not sure I would have even thought to search for something like that on You Tube. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Very funny. Glad I ran into you as I butchered this name too 😉
I’m always happy when I can be entertaining and educational. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I just discovered that store yesterday, and I nearly had the pronunciation right the first time! I said lox-ee-tayne instead of lox-ee-tahn. Then again, I’ve been taking French for the last two years, so I had a bit of a leg up.
Well done on the pronunciation! Did you buy any of their products? Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Thanks for adding the video; friends have told me the french love to snicker when Americans cannot pronounce the french language…
If the French love to snicker watching Americans butcher their language than I’m sure they are having quite a a belly-laugh over that video. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
great post, it’s too bad the phone call to the store didn’t work, but thank goodness for the video! i’ve passed the store several times and wondered exactly how to pronounce the name 🙂
The phone call to the store was a long shot since we weren’t sure how they would answer the phone. The video and our French speaking colleague was definitely the better way to go. So glad Good Humored could entertain and educate you. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
If you’re not in marketing, you’ve missed your calling. I must have said the name of the shop at least ten times (right, by the way, but then again, I’m working with French people on a day to day basis). And you made me smile.
So glad I could make you smile. That’s a wonderful compliment to give 🙂 Congrats to you for being able to pronounce the word! Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Great post ! Now I give you 2 new challenges: BOUILLOIRE (kettle) and haute-couture designer Jean-Charles de Castelbajac.
Greetings from a French reader !
I have no hope of pronouncing either one of those words correctly. Please, it took me several years to learn L’Occitane. Thanks for taking the time to check in from France to read and comment.
At least you tried to figure it out. I’ve been calling it Low Octane. Thought it had something to do with gas…
You weren’t the only one calling it Low Octane. Curiosity got the better of me and then I couldn’t let it go. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
So French, really nice name – loved your post !
Glad you enjoyed the post. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment, Monica.
I am not aquainted with the store but having read your wonderful story and of the scents available there I would pronounce it “ROSE”
Their products are fabulous. I like to use the lavender hand cream in the winter because it reminds me of how my hands smell in the summer when I come in from working in the garden. It’s the only hand cream I’ve ever found that actually smells like real lavender. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
It’s not French, it’s … occitane! A dialect … or, some say, a separate language, spoken in the South of France.
I know very little about France so I appreciate the lessons I’ve gotten in my comments about French pronunciations and dialects. Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment.
Haha, hilarious. There is so many things we don’t even consciously pronounce in our heads when we read and then when we try, well, that video says it all. Great post!
There are a lot of words I pronounce in my head that I wouldn’t even attempt to speak aloud. I always remember the Mark Twain quote, “It is better to have people think you a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
I think Abraham Lincoln said it first….
It came up as a Mark Twain quote when I searched it. Since they are both long dead, I’m sure they won’t mind if I gave the wrong guy credit.
Yes, I live in france and two C’s = X, the french pronounce the letter i as an english ee, and it would only be tanee at the end if there it was spelt tané with an accent on the e.
Hope that helps!
I appreciate the lesson in French pronunciation. I took Spanish, German and sign language, but never had any French classes. Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment.
Hahahaha…. Frankly… this is hilarious… All this while I thought that I was the only one bloody stupid fella in this world who do not know how to pronounce this word… What a French… By the way they do have great products.
I’m glad you don’t feel so lonely in your mispronunciation now. There products are fantastic. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Here’s where the name comes from :
I know this because I’m French.
One mystery solved for you guys!
Happy New Year to all WordPress staff and users.
Thanks so much for the French lesson. This has been quite the educational experience for me. Happy New Year to you and thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
My fav place to go to lunch is Pret a Manger…only I can never say it to anyone. I’ve asked a few french people to teach me and I’m never going to get it right. 😦 Maybe I should just tell people that, like Jared, I go to Subway everyday.
I would mangle the name of that restaurant, too. What I have discovered is that it doesn’t really matter if you are pronouncing it wrong, as long as the person you are speaking to also pronounces it wrong and understands you. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Which why Saks, WalMart and Kohls win. Easy-peasy.
Now, pronounce Sotheby’s.
There’s definitely something to be said for simplicity. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
While calling L’Occitane’s customer service a few years ago, I discovered–much to my chagrin–that I had been saying it wrong for many years. Thanks for a great post!
Did they correct your pronunciation or did you figure it out when they answered the phone? Glad you enjoyed the post. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Congrats on being freshly pressed!
Thanks! I’m in shock.
Happy New Year – 2012
Now you should do an experiment with ‘Au bon pain’ 😉
Good point! I have no idea how to pronounce that bakery’s name correctly either. I can manage the first two words and fake the last one. Thanks for reading and commenting.
I know how to say it, and I was just about to type it here, but I realized that I’ve known French for too long and hence would just type something idiotic like, “You pronounce it like this: au bon pain.” Ah, the vagaries of a near-native language learned young …
I also didn’t realize that there was any obscurity about how to say L’Occitane, either. Oh, well.
I suppose this whole post is quite absurd to anyone who can actually read French. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Well, it IS neat to realize how un-evident this all is. I can definitely see how French is confusing, though — you can have about six words all said exactly the same way. At least with Italian, it’s more one-to-one.
And it’s LOTS better than English, with a many-to-many mapping of spelling vs. pronunciation. I remember an Argentine officemate I had in grad school once who was gobsmacked to learn that Americans competed to spell words.
English is a terrible language to have to learn to spell. There are so many rules that have even more exceptions and don’t even get me started on silent letters. By the way, I love the word gobsmacked. It really just captures the essence of what it means. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment.
Oh – so close. I’ve been in French for five years, but I was guessing L’ose-ee- ten, not l’ox-ee-ten.
You got much closer than I ever did with my five years of Spanish. I didn’t have a chance at pronouncing it properly. Thanks so much for stopping by and taking the time to read and comment. Hope you’ll be back again soon.
Thanks for clearing that up. I will be practicing my French accent all night.
Good luck with the accent. We can barely pronounce it correctly without the accent.
This was funny – and what is wrong with ‘Italianizing’ the word.
I have nothing against Italian. Love Italy. Love the food. Love the people, but it is a French store 🙂
I’m so glad that you used my idea for the title. Your title ideas are always so perfectly chosen, so I feel great that you chose one of mine. If you’re good, I may be visiting LAH-OC-SIH-TAYNE for one of your Hanukkah gifts. Yes, I prefer to say the name this way, even though it’s wrong.
If you’re shopping there for a gift for me, you can call the store by whatever name you want 🙂
Dear Mr Oregano….
Are you sure you didn’t misplaced the T in the name?
I laughed like crazy reading this because I had all those conversations in my head every time I passed that store! So glad you were able to solve the mystery!
All the best,
That’s one mystery down, so many more to go. I’m happy the story made you laugh while you learned something new 🙂
Maybe it needs to become more of a household name. For instance, Häagen-Dazs rolls right off my kids tongues. (and then it rolls back in again) 😉
I suppose in France it is more of a household name. We’ll have to start a campaign over here.
Mr. Preston would be pround….I had it right after all these years! :0)
Good for you! 🙂 Maybe that’s my problem. I took Spanish and German in high school, not French.
LOL!!! How funny is that?! So fun to read this blog!!! xox
How about this one? For many years, I had a client called Occhiale da Sole. Even the employees had trouble pronouncing it correctly. Here’s a clue – the product is sunglasses and the language is Italian.
Was it pronounced OCK-EE-AH-LAY DUH SO-LAY? I did that by myself. I didn’t ask Bruschetta to help me read the Italian. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment!
Lo-key-ah-ley is how they say it in Antipasta land. ~Bruschetta.
Thanks for clearing that up, Bruschetta. That makes you 1 & 1 for pronunciations 🙂
LOL! I love that store! The hand cream is like an addictive drug to me especially in the winter months!
I can easily see why you would be addicted to their hand creams. You may love that store, but could you pronounce the name?
It is a derivative of high Octane French petrol….the “i” is silent !!!
I’m glad their products don’t smell like petrol.
L’Occitane? That’s easy. What’s “verbena”?
Verbena is a herbaceous or semi-woody flowering plant. It’s essential oil can be used in fragrance. Good Humored is an entertaining and edcuational blog.
Thank you, Pappy. Do you think the L’Occitane chain should start to open L’Oxxcinbagelle stores next door?
If they haven’t done it already, I think you’ve got a million dollar idea. I could get my fragrances and hand creams then get bagels and cream cheese.
I stand by my decision to call it
lo-key-taan-ey. You are too funny Paps.
You can call it whatever you want, but you’re still wrong 😛
They dont have curtis verbena, but they have a delicious ginger spritz.:)
I’ll keep it in mind if I ever forget how to say L’Occitane again.
Next time go to Origins. It is easier to pronounce 🙂
That’s one solution, but only if they have that citrus verbena scent.
Did a lot of work for L’Occitane Comp.(nice people). Apparently I never pronounced the name correctly, but no one ever corrected me. Now I feel like OH WELL! Thanks for the lesson.
I guess they are used to people saying their name wrong. See…you learn something new everyday.
Citrus Verbena! It’s worth trying to say the name of the store.
The scent is so lemony and light. It would be worth saying the name even if I had a mouth full of marbles.
There is a women’s clothing store near where I live. The name of the store is so crazy that they actually spell the name phonetically under the store name on their big sign. OK,if you have to do that, you need to change the name of the store! What were they thinking?
After I wrote this post the other day, my husband showed me a leaflet he picked up in the store and under L’Occitane was the phonetic pronunciation. I guess that’s a new trend in marketing. Maybe it builds mystery and interest in the store.
Which is why we shop at ‘Le Targzay’ (Target).
‘Cause when it sounds French, it’s classier.
No, just more expensiver…:-)